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Re: Veda (Hollywood ruleset) Updated 6/12

Posted: June 12th, 2018, 8:30 pm
by MichelleCYoung
Hooray! An update! But, I think there was a typo, because it takes us to Linden Week *2*. You want 3, right?

Eagerly awaiting an update to the update.

I agree on the "got big too fast" thing. I couldn't seem to slow down with my two BACC's. Now, I'm getting ready to transfer over Youngdale, and I'm changing up the rules to slow things down a bit. Yes, I'm actually putting limits on community lots! I want to watch them struggle a bit, although not as much as they do in Veda, although you're succeeding quite nicely, too. Yeah.

Anyway, better post this so you can see about the typo.

Re: Veda (Hollywood ruleset) Updated 6/12

Posted: June 12th, 2018, 9:07 pm
by Pony
Whoops, uploaded the wrong file. I fixed it, it should take you to Week 3 now.

Re: Veda (Hollywood ruleset) Updated 6/12

Posted: June 13th, 2018, 12:04 pm
by MichelleCYoung
OOoh! I know
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how Daisy can free Thistle. She just needs to give her family Witch-B-Gone potions, then as the last remaining witch, she can free Thistle from his contract, and then Magus Mutation them all back. With HER as the head of the coven! HAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAA! She deserves it. Chris and Iris may be "good aligned" witches, but they're not good hearted. What kind of father doesn't even allow his children to take fifteen minutes to eat THEIR OWN BIRTHDAY CAKE?!?!?!?!?!!

Roaches + Chrys + locked room. Please. And then, after Thistle is free, he can learn how to raise the guy as a ZOMBIE SERVANT! HA! Take THAT, JERKBAG!

Ahem. I don't like him.

However, I love this chapter! Yaaaay! I like seeing Magnolia's growth, and how she's willing to try to convince Chrys, at least. Iris might agree if Chrys told her to. But really, someone needs to dig up the original contract, and the context of its formation, and teach Chrys AND Iris that SERVANT is not SLAVE. He was literally born into it, after generations of ownership, and they still have the GALL to claim it's not slavery? What do they think slavery IS?! Seriously? HOW do they justify this, or claim any difference?!

Much drama. Much more drama to come, I'm sure. Also, if Thistle ever told any of his friends the truth of his situation, I feel pretty sure that some public shame/shunning would be in order against Chrys, who had it in his power to release Thistle, years ago, and chose not to, for his own selfish "stature." Yeah, being a slave-owner makes you look SOOOOO GOOD, there, Chrys. Also, doesn't Veda have its OWN laws? Maybe when Joyce becomes Mayor, she could pass a law making slavery illegal? Let's see Chrys defend his right to keep a slave (oh, sorry, "servant" who has no freedom to leave his unpaid position, and was only able to go to school because the leader demanded it and his owner reluctantly agreed) in court! YES! As soon as someone has a job in the Law, we need to have a lawsuit! Thistle vs. Chrys!

Sorry. I got a bit carried away. Excellent chapter!

Re: Veda (Hollywood ruleset) Updated 6/12

Posted: June 13th, 2018, 12:34 pm
by Pony
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Joyce has been staying out of it. She doesn't like the Servant idea, but she doesn't understand it at all. So she's just let it go, but she doesn't really know how bad it is. Tyler and Samuel however want it to end. Thistle is their friend, but they aren't sure what to do about it. They're mostly leaving it to Daisy.

The role of Servant got twisted over the centuries, it was originally more a butler/master relationship. But you know humans can corrupted anything. But Thistle has certain rights. Chrys just forgets that, conveniently...

Chrys and Iris are able to hold their good alignment cause they're still for good overall. Like a wealthy family that does a ton of charity work but treats their maid and nanny like crap. Chrys will save a starving child and build houses for humanity, but not listen when his son just wants a piece of cake.

Omg, you make me so excited about this storyline. It's so hard to be at work right now.

Re: Veda (Hollywood ruleset) Updated 6/12

Posted: June 13th, 2018, 3:26 pm
by MichelleCYoung
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Is Daisy going to discover those forgotten rights, and educate her father, who will be utterly shocked that Thistle even has those rights? I'd love to see that scene! With Thistle overhearing, as he's busy doing some work that probably goes against those rights.

Yeah, over centuries, people can corrupt just about anything, without even trying, or even being aware of it. That's why we write things down. History is important!

Re: Veda (Hollywood ruleset) Updated 6/12

Posted: June 14th, 2018, 4:10 pm
by mysterymusic7
Love the update.
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I know this family's got more going on than the rest, but I love it. Methinks Chrys is gonna be in for a surprise with Daisy. Iris too is gonna be in for a good piece of humble pie in future too.
Good for Rose rebelling and getting herself some cake.
We didn't see much of poor Aspen...the forgotten twin it would seem. Of course perhaps that means he'll just sneak up on everyone soon and do something amazing. :P
Love the family's new kitchen. It's spiffy.

Re: Veda (Hollywood ruleset) Updated 6/12

Posted: June 14th, 2018, 5:56 pm
by Pony
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The Linden family is certainly stealing the show. But they are so interesting, I love them. Especially Rose. She's not going to let anyone stop her from getting her cake. Aspen is the forgotten child in the shadow of his brother. He's out of the spotlight for now, but who knows what his future holds :D.

Re: Veda (Hollywood ruleset) Updated 6/12

Posted: June 14th, 2018, 6:12 pm
by mysterymusic7
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Ha! There's always one family like that in every challenge like this isn't there?
But let's face it some families are just more interesting. :rotfl:

Re: Veda (Hollywood ruleset) Updated 6/14

Posted: June 14th, 2018, 6:16 pm
by Pony
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Very very true :D
Guess what boys and girls, I have an update!

Thanks everyone for reading!

Re: Veda (Hollywood ruleset) Updated 6/14

Posted: June 14th, 2018, 8:03 pm
by MichelleCYoung
Oh, boy!
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Oh, boy! I'm so glad that Oleander has a mother who gladly took on the responsibility of his daughter. I have to admit, when faced with a man who is happy to have unprotected sex, but won't face the consequences, I am irked. But this plantsim was uninformed, and taken completely by surprise. I WISH he could love his child, but I understand that he doesn't. He didn't just walk away, thinking "Lalala, don't care what happens to the sprout. Not my problem." He walked away thinking "She's fine here, and will be well loved and raised." He's right - some people just shouldn't be parents, and the best thing they can do is remove themselves from the child, rather than try to force themselves to parent a child they can't love. Children sense that, and think that they are just unlovable, and that's not true, at all! Better to just admit that "I'm not cut out to be a parent, but X person IS, and will raise you up well, and love you, as you deserve." Hopefully, Oleander will make friends with his daughter when she grows up in a few days. Lots of great people just can't deal with children, but can befriend their offspring as adults.

In short - I still reaaaaalllllllyyyyyy dislike Chrys, who actively harms his family/household members, but Oleander is just "meh," on that scale. I mean, I'd love to say, "Awwww, he's a good father," but he's not and that's all there is to it. He could have made that poor child's life horrible by sticking around! So, yay, he's gone. I AM rooting for him forming a bond with the sprout (whose name I completely forget) next week, or so, as a fellow adult. After all, we know they'll have their personality in common, at least. On the other hand, someone is bound to say, "What? You couldn't suck it up for three measly days?" To that, I say, "What about a woman who was raped, and impregnated completely against her will, and NOT because she was careless with the birth control? Should she not be free to find a loving home for the child, and walk away, herself? Of course she should! Oleander had no idea what was happening to him. It wasn't his fault. So, yeah, he has my sympathy. Although, I'm very glad it wasn't a rape situation. Still, same logic applies, to my mind.

From a game perspective, I'm glad he passed on his genes once. Yay! And from a writer's perspective, I'm glad to see the variety in characterization, and not just all happy families. I think it was Dostoyevsky who said (paraphrasing here): Happy families are all alike, but unhappy families are unhappy in their own ways. If everyone is happy about babies, it will get boring, and also highly unrealistic. This struck me as very realistic (despite the fantasy aspect of plantsim, in the first place). I like how you handled it.

Lovely grocery store! Congratulations on the award!

Re: Veda (Hollywood ruleset) Updated 6/14

Posted: June 14th, 2018, 8:54 pm
by Pony
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It took me awhile to decide if Oleander was going to walk away or not. I wanted to plantsim legacy type chain. But Olly is definitely not the type to enjoy children, even for only three days. He barely tolerates his half sisters. He also is very young and hasn't matured completely. Lilac is in good hands of her grandparents and aunts.

There's plenty of happy and healthy families in Veda. We need some variety lol. And Chrys can't the only complicated guy.

This is the first time I have tried prebuilding community lots. I like how they're turning out. And I tried your trick of proofreading backwards. I think it helped!
Thank you for reading :D

Re: Veda (Hollywood ruleset) Updated 6/14

Posted: June 14th, 2018, 9:18 pm
by MichelleCYoung
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Oleander IS young. Sure, plantsims become physical adults after only three days, but they have the life-experience of small children. Of course he's immature! He even says, his sisters have more time to enjoy their lives.

Pre-building is great, because you can have exactly what you want, and KNOW how much it will cost. Then, you either whittle it down to what you can afford, but with a clear goal in mind, or you save up for it, and buy it as soon as you the necessary amount, without any doubt about "can I really afford everything I need to make this business work?"

I'm so glad it worked for you!
I really enjoyed this chapter!

Re: Veda (Hollywood ruleset) Updated 6/14

Posted: June 14th, 2018, 11:03 pm
by mysterymusic7
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Well I feel bad for poor Lilac what with her dad walking out on her like that. I guess at least she has her grandparents and aunts to help look after her.
Always makes me sad to teach kids in real like who's parents just leave them, it really is devastating.
I get Oleandar is very young though, so maybe once he gets older he'll come to realize he should have been there more for his daughter and will try to make amends. Or perhaps he won't. Not everyone matures unfortunately. Some people just shouldn't have kids....and Oleander may just be one of those people. Sadly with plant sims they don't really seem to have a choice in the matter it's something that just happens, which can be quite devastating for some sprouts it would seem. Sad, but real.
Love the little grocery store. Looks lovely.

Re: Veda (Hollywood ruleset) Updated 6/14

Posted: June 16th, 2018, 9:31 pm
by MichelleCYoung
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Oh, I agree. It's going to hurt Lilac, even with loving grandparents, because she's going to think "I wasn't good enough to get my Daddy's love," and that is devastating! In her favor, though, she'll grow up in three days, so she has a better chance of having a more positive outcome. Also, she DOES have a loving family.

My aunt was a school-teacher, and she taught some children with parents who had NO business being parents. One child was literally NOT TAUGHT HOW TO TALK before FIRST GRADE! The kid was basically raised in a closet until the law required they send her to school. When that little girl said, "Hello" to my aunt, my aunt was literally dancing through the halls, proclaiming it to all the other teachers, and anyone who would listen! In that case, had her "parents" actually abandoned her to anyone who would actually be a good parent, the devastation of being left behind would have been a vast improvement to the horrifying neglect, and daily reminders that she was neither wanted nor loved.

Compared to that little girl, Lilac has it good. Sad that my baseline is so low, isn't it? That month I spent with my aunt changed my world-view a LOT. I had been eager to become a teacher, like her. After that, I thought, "I'd love to teach Sunday School, or something, but teach in a school, with PARENTS? UGH! Never! I became a secretary, and am very glad I did. I loved it. And my heart was not crushed by watching bright young souls being crushed by the very people who are supposed to love them the most.

I don't know how my aunt managed. I really don't. But I'll tell you this: It was awesome going anywhere with her, even just the grocery store, because we were always stopped by some adult, who had to talk to her, and tell her about how things were with them, and how much of a difference she made in their lives. Did I mention, she taught first grade? I don't remember my first grade teacher, but oodles of people in that little town remembered theirs. I burst with pride whenever I think about my amazing aunt. I certainly don't have what it takes to be that kind of teacher, and to keep going after dealing with those kinds of "parents," including the "parents," who referred to their own children as "checks," because of the welfare checks they got for childcare expenses.


This is certainly something for Pony to explore when writing about Lilac growing up, isn't it? Such scope for drama! And there are a variety of ways she can go with it, including the happy ending of the two becoming best friends in adulthood, Lilac being bitter, Lilac being the BEST PARENT EVER in an attempt to prove something, or possibly some combination, or something else, entirely. Just a fantastic set-up, in general. And also, alarmingly true to life for a whole lot of people.

Real, 3 dimensional characters and situations. Good stuff.

Re: Veda (Hollywood ruleset) Updated 6/14

Posted: June 17th, 2018, 5:12 pm
by Pony
Mystery-
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It was unbelievably hard to make Oleander walk away. I want everyone to have happy and have happy families. But I just don't see him as happy being a dad. He still very much wants to be free and selfish. As you and Michelle both said, some people aren't cut out to be parents. I have plans for both Olly and Lilac. It's very hard to wait to play their houses again.

I really like how the grocery store turned out. Perfect for a small mountain top town.
Michelle-
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Lilac is very lucky, she will be very much beloved. Even if her dad can't do it yet.

I've thought about being a teacher too, I like kids enough and like to teach them. But I don't want to deal with the broken system and worse parents. I'm better at teaching people to take care of their fishies. :fish:

It's going to be interesting exploring Lilac, that's for sure. I have some plans for her :D

Re: Veda (Hollywood ruleset) Updated 11/10

Posted: November 10th, 2018, 10:36 pm
by Pony
Update!

Re: Veda (Hollywood ruleset) Updated 11/10

Posted: November 16th, 2018, 11:58 pm
by Pony
Minor Update

Since Slideshare is being such a pain, I'm reposting everything over to Livejournal in a hopefully readable style. For now I'm leaving Slideshare version up and linking the LJ post beside it. But once i'm all caught up to how far I've written on Slideshare it'll just be LJ posts. I just uploaded the prologue, let me know what you think.

Re: Veda (Hollywood ruleset) Updated 11/10

Posted: November 18th, 2018, 12:02 am
by Pony
Added Week 1 Thomas LJ version

Re: Veda (Hollywood ruleset) Updated 11/10

Posted: November 24th, 2018, 1:29 pm
by mysterymusic7
DId I comment on Holly's chapter? can't remember...
Yeah it is pretty dull when you just have 1 sim on their own. Still a nice productive first week for her in town at any rate.

Re: Veda (Hollywood ruleset) Updated 11/10

Posted: November 24th, 2018, 9:48 pm
by Pony
Yeah, I'm hoping her next week is more interesting.