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Postby itsjulie » November 5th, 2017, 3:45 am

.Image The Boolprop Baby Boom Challenge Image.

To celebrate Boolprops 12th birthday, we have a new challenge for you!!
A Baby Boom Challenge.

A challenge that can be completed with all versions of the sims - 2, 3 and 4

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This challenge is to be completed using a sim couple ...
who together have to create and raise 12 boys AND 12 girls from birth to young adult ...
so that is 24 babies in total.


- No Money Cheats
- No Fertility treatment is to be used.
- Life extenders, including occults, can be used to prolong the life of the parents, so that they have time to complete this challenge.

Playing the Challenge

- First create your sim couple either in CAS or you can use one of your favourite existing couples, but you MUST start with a fresh copy of them ... no skills.
- Your couples traits, LTW and appearance is entirely up to you.
- Move your couple onto an empty lot. The biggest one that they can buy which will leave them virtually broke ... they will be living in the great outdoors until they earn the money to put a roof over their head and build a home for their family.
- The money left after buying their lot, can be spent on necessities, like a toilet, a bed, something to cook on etc to start them off.
- Only one of the parents can gain employment and go out to work. The other parent however can earn money by any means available to them without being employed - writing / painting / gardening ect
- Service sims are not allowed - baby sitters, repairmen and maids are a no no.
- Pets and Seasons are entirely up to you.

- To complete this challenge you will need to have raised 12 boys and 12 girls to young adult.
As you can not control the sex of each baby being born, the end of this challenge might get a little frustrating!! Say for instance you just need 1 more boy and a girl arrives.
That girl won't count and you have to continue making babies until you get that final boy.
- Babies born as a result of anything other than pregnancy will not count. All 24 of the children must have the same parents, so any babies born from affairs or produced by any other means are extra's and not counted.
- Adoption is allowed, but these children will not be counted and will only take up necessary space and make your challenge longer.

- Lifespans - depend on which version of sims that you are playing. However, don't use ridiculously low lifespans for the children to hurry up the challenge.
- All of the countable children must be given a name beginning with the letter B
- If either of the parents die before they have produced the needed 12 girls and 12 boys - you have failed the challenge.
- No aging up early or using birthday cakes ... the children must be left to age up naturally in the game.
- Toddlers are to be taught their three basic skills - walking, talking and potty training
- You can not send your children to boarding school.
- Any children who die, moves out of the active house or taken away by social services, before becoming a young adult, have to be replaced.
- When each child reaches young adult, they must be moved out immediate - to make space for more children.

The challenge is complete when the last countable child becomes a young adult.

Mini-challenges:
Spoiler:
NOT THE Bs!
Have all your children's names start with B, for extra props and credit but also extra confusion!



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Completing this challenge will earn you a shiny new medal Image
If you are doing this challenge - please post your first update on this thread to let us know you are doing the Baby Boom Challenge
TGBO members - posting your first update will earn you a bonus 30 points for your house.


Any Questions about this challenge leave them on this thread
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Re: 12th Birthday Party - BABY BOOM CHALLENGE

Postby Jenn » November 11th, 2017, 9:53 am

I guess I'll be the first one to post here :D

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Re: 12th Birthday Party - BABY BOOM CHALLENGE

Postby itsjulie » November 11th, 2017, 12:13 pm

:thup: Great start Jenn
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Re: 12th Birthday Party - BABY BOOM CHALLENGE

Postby Livvielove » November 11th, 2017, 2:24 pm

I'm right behind you, Jenn! I got my baby boom-ers up and ready to go!

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Edit: Here's the actual first chapter! So now I'm officially official. XD :bounce:
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Re: 12th Birthday Party - BABY BOOM CHALLENGE

Postby Seera » November 11th, 2017, 2:38 pm

Just did some quick math. If life extenders aren't used and players are allowed to use cheesecake to ensure twins for each birth (though getting in time for the first pregnancy would be chancey), there's only enough days in the adult span of adults in Sims 2 to have 9 pregnancies, which would yield 18 kids. But you'd be stopped before that due to the max Sims per lot limit after the 3'rd pregnancy. And the oldest would only be a child since no aging up early is allowed. And unless it was counted that being shipped off to University the moment one turns teenager counts as being raised to YA, then you'd lose 15 days after the 6th child was born waiting for the oldest to age to adult.

Sims 2 adults are able to have babies for only 29 days. Sims 3 has 42 and Sims 4 has 48. Of course each one is less a few days since the game does prevent try for baby right on top of the elder birthday. Can Sims in Sims 2 use the elixir of life 5 times to get to an equivalent number of baby making days? It would put them at 44 days. Enough days for 14 pregnancies and up to 28 kids. And it doesn't take into account the 15+ days if you have to wait if you have to wait for the teens to age to Adult naturally instead of being able to ship them off to University the moment they aged to teen. As I'm assuming, I can't use a mod to allow for more than 8 Sims per lot - let me know if I can.

Can triplets & quads mod be used in Sims 2 as long as they odds aren't set to favor triplets and quads as a majority - so single births still left as most common?

And what happens if a toddler doesn't learn all 3 skills, but not for a lack of trying?

I want to try this in Sims 2, but as it stands right now, it's impossible to complete with Sims 2.
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Re: 12th Birthday Party - BABY BOOM CHALLENGE

Postby Little White Comet » November 11th, 2017, 2:52 pm

I want to try this in The Sims 2 as well, but I don't want to start if its impossible to even attempt it. I have the Triplets and Quads mod but I have the random version and I have the multiples set low.
I would also like to know if you are allowed to use the Elixir of Life like you would in a Who's your Daddy Challenge to extend your Sims life if necessary?
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Re: 12th Birthday Party - BABY BOOM CHALLENGE

Postby Ani-Mei » November 11th, 2017, 3:34 pm

I can try to answer your Sims 2 questions but I haven't played it for a long time mind you:

No Fertility treatment is to be used, in Sims 3 this is referring to the Fertility Treatment LTR. Unless multiples happen naturally, I didn't see anything against using the Trips and Quads hack in Sims 2 but to keep it fair I would suggest setting it to the lowest possible percentage of multiples. Forcing twins with cheesecake also seems a bit like cheating to me anyway. The Larger Households hack, there is nothing wrong with that since it doesn't affect the birth rate, it only allows for more kids to be kept in the house, therefore making the challenge a bit faster to get through. Life extenders like Elixer and Cow Plant milk are fine since it is stated that you are allowed to use them to keep the parents young enough to have all 24 kids. For me, I've already messed up my challenge and have to redo it, I am using Sims 3 so I made two fairies as the parents. They have naturally long lives anyway, even without my Immortal Life mod.

Toddlers not learning all their life skills, walk, talk and potty if something happens that prevents that, through no actual fault I don't see why it shouldn't be held against you.
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Re: 12th Birthday Party - BABY BOOM CHALLENGE

Postby Little White Comet » November 11th, 2017, 3:39 pm

Thanks, Ani-Mei! I think I'll give it a go with TS2 then and see how it goes.
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Re: 12th Birthday Party - BABY BOOM CHALLENGE

Postby snazzle » November 11th, 2017, 3:47 pm

She says life extenders are allowed, so I'm assuming Elixir of Life would be fine. :)

As for cheesecake.. I would think this would be not quite the same level as TS3 Fertility Treatment, but instead more along the lines of listening to kids' music/kids TV (which ups the chances for twins too). But I suppose the rules didn't specifically okay the kids stations either, so I'll wait for an official weigh-in from Julie. :)
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Re: 12th Birthday Party - BABY BOOM CHALLENGE

Postby Seera » November 11th, 2017, 3:51 pm

Ani-Mei wrote:I can try to answer your Sims 2 questions but I haven't played it for a long time mind you:

No Fertility treatment is to be used, in Sims 3 this is referring to the Fertility Treatment LTR. Unless multiples happen naturally, I didn't see anything against using the Trips and Quads hack in Sims 2 but to keep it fair I would suggest setting it to the lowest possible percentage of multiples. Forcing twins with cheesecake also seems a bit like cheating to me anyway. The Larger Households hack, there is nothing wrong with that since it doesn't affect the birth rate, it only allows for more kids to be kept in the house, therefore making the challenge a bit faster to get through. Life extenders like Elixer and Cow Plant milk are fine since it is stated that you are allowed to use them to keep the parents young enough to have all 24 kids. For me, I've already messed up my challenge and have to redo it, I am using Sims 3 so I made two fairies as the parents. They have naturally long lives anyway, even without my Immortal Life mod.

Toddlers not learning all their life skills, walk, talk and potty if something happens that prevents that, through no actual fault I don't see why it shouldn't be held against you.


Ooops, I read can be used as can't be used XD Which means it's entirely possible even with no mods being used. Mods would just speed it up.

Triplets & Quads lowest settings are 0%. It's completely up to the player as to what the chances are. I may look into the natural rate of Triplets in Sims 3 and Sims 4. Can't be cheating if I match Sims 3 and Sims 4.

Kids music doesn't make the chances 100% if they listen to it for 1 minute. Cheesecake guarantees twins even if they just eat one bite. And I won't be using cheesecake, even if it was allowed due to that guarantee.

Now to decide which couple I want to use XD
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Re: 12th Birthday Party - BABY BOOM CHALLENGE

Postby Livvielove » November 11th, 2017, 4:00 pm

Life extenders are allowed according to the rules - now I have a household hack for the Sims 3... is that allowed to be used or should I just keep to my 8 limit for this challenge? I doubt I would even really abuse it that much - as maintaining those children all at once would be INSANE.
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Re: 12th Birthday Party - BABY BOOM CHALLENGE

Postby Seera » November 11th, 2017, 4:04 pm

Livvielove wrote:Life extenders are allowed according to the rules - now I have a household hack for the Sims 3... is that allowed to be used or should I just keep to my 8 limit for this challenge? I doubt I would even really abuse it that much - as maintaining those children all at once would be INSANE.
Just curious since we're asking questions!


Larger household mods are fine per Ani's response to my thread. Since it doesn't effect the birth rate or chances of twins/triplets/quads.
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Re: 12th Birthday Party - BABY BOOM CHALLENGE

Postby Ani-Mei » November 11th, 2017, 4:34 pm

As Seera said, if you have a larger household hack for Sims 3 there's nothing against using it.
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Re: 12th Birthday Party - BABY BOOM CHALLENGE

Postby Jenn » November 11th, 2017, 6:55 pm

Livvielove wrote:I'm right behind you, Jenn! I got my baby boom-ers up and ready to go!

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Great start, Livvie! I like your couple!

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My save threw 300 excpetion errors and closed out. I did get lucky and saved just beforehand since I had just spent all day building them a house. I'm going to try and load the game again (I've repaired it twice and it opened up once). I think the save is dead though. I 'm worried that I may have to restart the challenge.
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Re: 12th Birthday Party - BABY BOOM CHALLENGE

Postby snazzle » November 11th, 2017, 8:52 pm

I spent 2 hours creating the perfect sim.. and now it's stuck in endless processing. It's been 15 minutes (usually our PC gets the created family processed in well under a minute). I'll give it 5 more and then give up and start again. Of COURSE I didn't save that sim. *sob* She was so lovely too.
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Re: 12th Birthday Party - BABY BOOM CHALLENGE

Postby Livvielove » November 11th, 2017, 9:19 pm

Jenn wrote:
Livvielove wrote:I'm right behind you, Jenn! I got my baby boom-ers up and ready to go!

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Great start, Livvie! I like your couple!

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My save threw 300 excpetion errors and closed out. I did get lucky and saved just beforehand since I had just spent all day building them a house. I'm going to try and load the game again (I've repaired it twice and it opened up once). I think the save is dead though. I 'm worried that I may have to restart the challenge.


Thanks Jenn!
Oh no! I loved your Sims! I hope you can save it! Ack. Nothing worse than a dead save. I've been trying to save frequently on my own save here.
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Re: 12th Birthday Party - BABY BOOM CHALLENGE

Postby Jenn » November 11th, 2017, 10:46 pm

I saved it! S4S came out with a new update tonight and I was able to use that to batch fix (all the sofas also) a sofa that had turned invisible. I think that was causing all the errors.
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Re: 12th Birthday Party - BABY BOOM CHALLENGE

Postby Livvielove » November 11th, 2017, 11:02 pm

:celebration: :bounce:
Yayyy! I'm so, so glad! Nothing worse than losing not only progress but your entire save! My fingers are crossed for you that things stay smooth!
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Re: 12th Birthday Party - BABY BOOM CHALLENGE

Postby somebodysangel » November 12th, 2017, 1:40 am

Love your couples, Jenn and Livvie! And wow, Livvie, your guys got lots of money very quickly!

I'm playing too, though haven't gotten to the posting part yet. We have the first baby a toddler and a second on the way...and the couple have only just moved their bed out of the kitchen/living room.
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Re: 12th Birthday Party - BABY BOOM CHALLENGE

Postby Livvielove » November 12th, 2017, 1:49 am

somebodysangel wrote:Love your couples, Jenn and Livvie! And wow, Livvie, your guys got lots of money very quickly!

I'm playing too, though haven't gotten to the posting part yet. We have the first baby a toddler and a second on the way...and the couple have only just moved their bed out of the kitchen/living room.


Thank you! My super secret is flipping the consignment stores. It has a lot of risk if no one buys the things YOU bought and sold, but sometimes it'll yield really good returns if you're careful! I know a LOT of fast ways to earn money really quickly in the Sims 3; but I went with the one that felt the least "cheaty" but didn't leave my Sims barren and broke forever. While some may enjoy that play-style, it's not mine, so I do what I can to earn money fast so I can enjoy my game! :yes:

Congrats on the first two babies! I got lucky and pulled in twins my first go, but thankfully with my risk/reward (and Liam's tiberium find) the house is all ready to go! This challenge is so much fun!
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